When every board meeting is about cuts, deficits, or another “,” leaders start asking what it would take to actually fix the institution instead of managing its collapse.

When higher education institutions reach that point, recovery depends on disciplined execution, clear governance, and a business plan rooted in measurable outcomes.

We explore how to stabilize and  when real estate is part of the equation—and how systems theory, change management, and risk planning can guide a true debt-free higher education turnaround instead of another temporary fix.

In this episode of the , Dr. Beth Martin, President of Notre Dame 91Դվ (NDNU), joins Dr. Drumm McNaughton to share how she led NDNU through a financial and operational turnaround. Drawing from her earlier career in the for-profit sector, Martin explains how business planning, risk management, and systems thinking enabled NDNU to eliminate debt, restructure programs, and rebuild around graduate and online education while staying true to its mission.